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Ed Schilling
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« on: August 26, 2019, 08:40:14 PM »

This weekend Helen and Sid will take the CWP class. I just realized how special their guns are.  Sidney will shoot her single action Ruger Bearcat that Mac gave her when she was about 11. His Dad  bought it for him when he was a kid. It's special.

The pistol Helen will qualify with is very special in a different way. It belonged to my Grandmothers 3rd husband and was given to me when he died. It is a Colt "pre Woodsman" first generation Target Model. It was made in 1923, before the name "Woodsman" was put on the pistol. It is very accurate and so smooth it is crazy. It is 95 years old or so and has every original part in it. Nothing has ever been replaced in it. It has never malfunctioned a single time in the 10 years or so I've had it. The fit and finish are just unbelievable. The slide feels like it is running on ball bearings. They really don't make them like this anymore.

I'll never sell it and my guess is that it will shoot just as good in another 95 years as it does now. Maybe it will need a spring or two by then.

They should have no problem qualifying with ancient guns. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 11:31:08 PM »

They both got their permits (finally) . Oddly, nothing has changed..... they both carried their guns anyway, now they just have "permission", which  no one should have to have but it is what it is.

Sidney has a S&W 9mm M&P Shield and a Kel Tec 32 (back up gun).....Poor Helen, she has to make do with a Kahr 9mm, bless her heart. Kidding of course, her Kahr is a very nice pistol and has never had a single malfunction. Neither has Sidney's. Reliability is much more important than extreme accuracy...all modern pistols are capable of 7-10 yard "combat accuracy'....it's just that not all are 100% reliable.

I'm confident all of ours will go bang every time they are asked and that is all I ask of them, the rest is up to the person pulling the trigger.

Just remember..."support a women's right to choose..........any gun she wants"  because... "a woman's place is behind the trigger".
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 12:23:57 PM »

Was thinking how funny it would be to bring percussion cap pistol. "Hey, it's in a self defense caliber!"
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 04:36:48 PM »

Hey Guy, gotta fire 50 rounds. No black powder stuff allowed. Most places don't want you to even shoot a .22. These guys dinint care at all, they actually liked their guns.

After you get the permit you can certainly carry a BP revolver. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2020, 12:34:54 AM »

Well, I am happy to report that Helen is carrying pretty much all the time now. She did not care for the Kahr after toting it around and went to a Glock 42. This is a nice damn pistol. Small, accurate but holds just seven .380. I'm not a caliber snob at all and 7 .380 with you is better than a .44 at home. Defensive .380 ammo now a days is pretty damn good, good enough IMO.

That said, as nice as the G 42 is and as easily it carries she has now moved to a Sig Sauer P365. This is a 9mm and it holds 11 or 13 rounds and is just about the size of the G 42. It rides in the holster just as good. It's very accurate but the odd thing is the lack of recoil. It has less felt recoil than our full size Glock 19  9mm. It has no more felt recoil than the G42 in .380. It is very easy to shoot well and it is TINY. With inside the pants holster you can forget it's there.

So, she stole my Sig P365 which caused me to retaliate by  selling the Kahr and getting myself a Sig P365 XL. It's slightly bigger and I mean slightly but holds 13 with flush fitting magazine.

Over the years Helen and I have had, traded and sold more pistols and revolvers than I can even remember. The Sig Sauer P365's are about as good as I can imagine for carry. Certainly the best we've ever had. They check all the boxes.

I tote the G42 as a back up now. Smiley Why carry extra ammo when  you can carry extra guns? Smiley

And one last thing guys.....if your wife wants to, is willing to, and will take the time to learn and train to carry there is just one rule for you to remember and it can be an expensive one, read the first of this post over and realize Helen went through several pistols to get "happy" on all levels.
We just happened to have them all. She would not have been happy if she were "stuck" with the Kahr and probably would leave it in the purse much of the time. As nice as it was it did not suit her. It seemed like it was perfect, until she carried it for a few days. The recoil is brutal, btw.

The rule is this..."Support a woman's right to chose, ANY GUN SHE WANTS".

Only she will know what she can tolerate in terms of recoil and carry comfort. If it recoils more than she can take she will not shoot enough to become proficient. If it is uncomfortable to carry...need I say more?

Do not let the guy behind the counter tell you what she or you need. They can not possibly know.

Only she will know that. If you can shoot before you buy (rent at the range maybe) that is a good way to go.

Don't forget a .25 in your pocket is better than a .45 on your night stand or in your safe.
Ed

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